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Biocellatussssssssssjjj

Berichtdoor Teunis » 18 aug 2015 19:53

Ha mensen,

Na een tijdje kogelvrij te zijn geweest, heb ik nu weer een kogeltje en wel een f8-tje, al een paar dagen, maar tjah te lui om een topic te openen enzo.
Zij( of hij) zwemt momenteel nogal enthousiast in een 37,5 liter bakje, samen met wat bejaarde visjes die tot nog toe met rust worden gelaten.
ik zal morgen een fotootje schieten van het bakje.

uiteindelijk komt er natuurlijk wel iets groters, maar daar heb ik nu geen ruimte voor. en met een powerhead en over size filterpomp erop kan ze zich ook in dit bakje wel uitleven. ze hangt graag in de stroming, wat een erg leuk gezicht is.
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Re: biocellatussssssssssjjj

Berichtdoor Nanda » 18 aug 2015 20:18

Leuk teunis! Wel een beetje klein inderdaad maar gaat vast goed komen.

Met wat voor visjes zit ze? Heb je al een naam bedacht?
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Berichtdoor Juliette » 18 aug 2015 20:20

Leuk dat je weer een kogeltje hebt :D

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Berichtdoor Teunis » 18 aug 2015 20:36

@nanda, Het bakje is 50 cm bij 25 bij 30. dus wel redelijk kwa zwemruimte in verhouding tot de meeste andere kleine bakjes. maar blijft beperkt natuurlijk. Ze zit met 3 bejaarde boraras, mochten die het niet redden kan ik daar niet wakker van liggen. De naam is nog een discussie puntje.

@Juliette, misschien maak ik zo als ik thuiskom nog wel een snapshot, en anders moet je toch echt tot morgen wachten :p
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Berichtdoor Ruben » 18 aug 2015 21:20

Ga je ook algen houden? Leuk. :left thumb
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Berichtdoor Nanda » 18 aug 2015 22:43

Ben ook benieuwd naar de fotos! Heb je dr al op brak zitten?
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Re: biocellatussssssssssjjj

Berichtdoor Teunis » 19 aug 2015 07:30

ze zit nog zoet, vanochtend:

pH 7,8
KH 8
GH 10
NO2 niet meetbaar aanwezig
NO3 10 ppm
PO4 0,7 ppm

Ik twijfel nog of ik op korte termijn zout ga toevoegen. Gezien de wetenschappelijke literatuur over deze vis, betwijfel ik of dat voor haar zelf nodig is, ze worden aangetroffen in zoete wateren. Mijn inschatting is dat het vooral nuttig is om de slijmlaag op te dikken, en aantal potentieel schadelijke organismen kan er ook slecht tegen... zout toevoegen is al heel lang een manier om kwetsbare vissen te beschermen tegen ziektes, maar met de huidige beschikbare waterkwaliteit is dat veelal achterhaald, en is het zout op lange termijn ook belastend voor de vis...

nou denk ik dat dat laatste voor kogeltjes wel meevalt omdat water in getijden gebieden van nature vrij rijk is aan mineralen en zouten. maar oke, valide en betrouwbare gegevens in gevangenschap ontbreken, en over het leven in de natuur is ook vrij weinig bekend.

twijfels twijfels twijfels
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Berichtdoor Nanda » 19 aug 2015 08:43

Ik snap je twijfel niet helemaal, ze worden gevangen in zoetwater. Maar leven wel degelijk in brak.
F8's migreren tijdens de paartijd terug naar zoet om daar hun eieren te leggen. Vervolgens gaan ze terug naar brak water om daar de rest van de tijd rond te brengen.

Belastend voor de vis geldt misschien voor zoetwater vissen al betwijfel ik dat.

Het bewijs in de praktijk is al geleverd, zodra brakwater vissen op brak worden gezet verbeteren de kleuren en wordt de vis vaak actiever.

Ben benieuwd uit welke literatuur je jouw informatie vandaan hebt?
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Berichtdoor Juliette » 19 aug 2015 12:11

Tja op zoet doen ze het en 99% van de verkochte F8 wordt op zoet gehouden. Maar ja op licht brak worden ze mooier, groter en leven aanzienlijk langer. Zou dat niet al genoeg zeggen over de voorkeur van de vis zelf?

Tegenvraagje is waarom je niet op licht brak zou houden? Kost je een paar cent aan jodium vrij zout om het voor de vis al veeeeeeel comfortabeler te maken. Speciaal zeezout en dobbers zijn nog niet eens noodzakelijk.
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Berichtdoor Teunis » 19 aug 2015 18:58

mooier groter en leven aanzienlijk langer, dat staat op vrijwel elke internetsite, maar er staat nooit een bron bij. ik geloof niet zo in dingen die mensen elkaar napapegaaien, ik geloof in harde correct verzamelde data. En die ontbreekt.

zowel in gevangenschap als in de natuur is er weinig over dit visje bekend. in de zin van betrouwbare valide gegevens.

mijn probleem met nu zout toevoegen is dat ik daarmee ws het hele biologisch evenwicht verstoor, en dat dat naar mijn idee wel eens schadelijker kan zijn dan een halfjaartje op zoet. over een halfjaar is ons huisje klaar en kan ik een groter aquarium in laten lopen met brakwater, ik heb wel eerder brak gehad, maar nooit van zoet naar brak over gegaan in een draaiend aquarium.
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