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Kogelvis forum • Toon onderwerp - Even voorstellen..

Even voorstellen..

Alles omtrent zoetwater kogelvissen

Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Razor109 » 26 feb 2010 22:26

Hallo allemaal,

Mijn vriendin en ik zijn ook in de ban geraakt van ons kogelvisje :) zo'n 1,5 jaar geleden ben ik een aquarium gestart (60L met Externe Eheim) en zoals iedere beginner naar de winkel om wat leuke visjes te kopen zonder natuurlijk voldoende speurwerk te verrichten van te voren. Ik kwam thuis met wat neon's, een kogelvisje, een albino kikker en een maanvis. Dit zou allemaal perfect samen gaan volgens de verkoper.

Gedurende ander half jaar is vanalles veranderd maar uiteindelijk is alles vrij redelijk gegaan, momenteel is de Maan vis verhuisd naar een kennis aangezien deze gewoon nietmeer in mijn 60L bakje paste en de vin werd aangevreten door ik verdenk de kogelvis.. :nee De kikker is overleden nadat deze uit het aquarium was gekropen langs de slang van de Eheim externe pomp. Vervolgens 2 etages in het huis lager gevonden, helaas overleden.. Na goed onderzoek te hebben gedaan was dit ook geen goede combinatie van vissen.. en heb dan vanaf dat moment ook altijd zelf mijn huiswerk gedaan.

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(Thermometer hangt los in het water, moet nieuwe zuignap op)

Momenteel al natuurlijk ondertussen wat nieuwe vissen in het aquarium maar met de kogelvis gaat het prima. Ik verwacht dat ik een Carinotetraodon irrubesco heb, die ik alleen rode muggenlarven voer, geen slakjes. Ik heb ooit eens wat slakjes geprobeerd maar daar vloog hij niet erg hard op af.. vond enkele weken later wel de lege huisjes terug dus of gestorven of de kogelvis heeft ze toch gegeten..

Mijn eerste vraag, kan het kwaad dat ik mijn kogelvis geen slakken voer? aangezien ik had gelezen dat deze nodig zijn om de tanden kort te houden? of geld dat niet voor alle kogelvissen?

Hier is de vis in kwestie..je ziet de koraalsteen die hij mooi gebruikt als schuilplek..

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Vraag 2:
Natuurlijk zijn wij nu ook besmet met het Multi Tank Syndrome (MTS).. en zijn aan het denken over een nieuwe bak, ons appartementje is niet denderend groot en kunnen misschien een 100cm x 50 x 60 plaatsten op de plek waar nu de 60L staat.. of we zouden een nieuwe plek moeten vinden om nog groter te gaan. We willen namelijk een kogel aquarium.. Dan willen we 1 'grote' kogel of meerdere 'matig-grote' kogeltjes.. een Fahaka lijkt ons super maar hoelang past deze in een 200L bak? is dat een jaar.. of nog niet eens? zijn er nog Zoet/Brak-water kogelvissen die iets kleiner worden maar wel groter dan GSP/SAP/F8's en goed te houden zijn?

Vraag 3:
Ik heb pas een plantje gekregen.. weet iemand welk soort dit is? Er zit namelijk een 'knol' aan en ik vraag me af of ik die moet inplanten of niet.. komt namelijk steeds los.. zo hangt hij ook wel leuk en wandelt hij door het aquarium met de vissen mee :) iemand een idee?

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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Jerrzz » 26 feb 2010 23:41

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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Frieda » 27 feb 2010 09:46

welkom op het forum!!!

Het is inderdaad een irrubesco of lorteti, ik kan zelf die 2 soorten niet uit elkaar houden. Ik raad je toch aan om wat meer variatie te voeren dan alleen rode muggenlarven. Probeer anders ook eens witte, artemia en toch ook gewoon slakken. Je kan gewoon wat poelslakjes loslaten in het aquarium, en met deze soort hoef je echt niet bang te zijn dat je een slakkenplaag in je bak krijgt. Ze vinden ze echt wel en eten ze ook echt op.

Ik raad je echt af om een fahaka te nemen in een bak van 100x50x60. Fahaka's groeien redelijk snel en moeten dus snel over na een bak van minimaal 450L, met een diepte van het liefst 60cm. Ceylons worden inderdaad een mooie middenmaat. Ze worden max 20cm al blijven ze vaak toch wat kleiner. Qua persoonlijkheid zijn ze wel heel groots. Ik zou de mijne echt niet meer willen missen!!! Ook GSPtjes zijn qua karakter echte leuke kogelvissen, blijven dan weer net een slagje kleiner als de ceylon. Heb ondertussen wel gemerkt dat wanneer je een kogel alleen houdt (hoe ze in de natuur ook leven) ze zich nog meer op jou als eigenaar gaan richten. En goed opletten in de winkel en degene kiezen die direct op je af komt zwemmen of lekker brutaal is.
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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Razor109 » 27 feb 2010 17:01

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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor jamie meyer » 27 feb 2010 17:39

welkom op het kogelforum :D
leuk kogelvisje heb je :)
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ik heb het momenteel helemaal gehad met aquaria!
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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Frieda » 27 feb 2010 18:13

Ik denk niet direct aan de tanden hoor, als ze rode mug uitspugen. Lange tanden is wel aan een kogelvis te zien.
Dingen die je kan proberen te voeren zijn gekookte mosselen/kokkels (zonder zout of conserveringsmiddelen) idem voor garnalen (koop ze zelf in groot verpakking bij de makro of op de markt)
Regenwormen kan je ook voeren, deze zijn ook wat stugger dus hier slijten de tanden ook wel op.
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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Jerrzz » 28 feb 2010 01:07

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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Razor109 » 28 feb 2010 11:44

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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Jerrzz » 01 maart 2010 09:28

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Re: Even voorstellen..

Berichtdoor Lode » 01 maart 2010 11:26

Welkom op het forum Razor, leuk dat je je hebt aangemeld.

Mooi kogeltje. Hoe vaak voer je hem? Uitspugen doen kogelvissen vaak pas als ze helemaal vol zitten namelijk.

Een jonge Fahaka kost rond de 10 euro over het algemeen. Een 200 liter aquarium zou iets van een half jaar kunnen. Ze groeien heel snel, zoals Frieda al aangeeft. Dus het is inderdaad het beste om gelijk een aquarium van het juiste formaat neer te zetten, anders krijg je geheid problemen.

De GSP en Ceylon zijn overigens brakwater kogelvissen. Dit is geen enkel probleem, maar is natuurlijk wel net weer anders en dus belangrijk bij je keuze :)
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