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Temperatuur opvoerpomp (OR6500) intern vs extern

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Temperatuur opvoerpomp (OR6500) intern vs extern

Berichtdoor PluX » 04 aug 2011 16:23

Hallo allen,

Ik heb nu een maand of anderhalf mijn nieuwe bak draaien met mijn 3 kogelvissen (GSP's). Ik heb alleen moeite met het in toom houden van de temperatuur. Als de omgevingstemperatuur in de kamer rond 24 graden is (het blijft redelijk koel in de huiskamer, veel hoger dan 25 graden op een zonnige zomerdag wordt het niet) dan merk ik dat het water in het aquarium toch op 26 of 27 graden blijft steken en heel soms zelfs iets hoger nog. Ik heb momenteel alleen de kogelvissen en wat lagere dieren in de bak, en geen koralen. Maar ik moet toch wat aan die temperatuur doen.

Ik heb een dubbele ventilator in de sump op het wateroppervlak gericht, en daardoor verdampt er nu een goed deel water. Maar tot mijn verbazing slaat het niet echt een deuk in de temperatuur. Nu verdenk ik mijn opvoerpomp (AM Ocean Runner 6500) ervan het water met idiote hoeveelheden op te warmen. Het water in de bak is immers 4 graden hoger dan de omgevingstemperatuur, en ik zou eigenlijk denken dat met de waterverplaatsing en verdamping de temp juist gelijk of lager zou moeten zijn. De koralia evo 5200L die erin hangt zou misschien ook warmte kunnen genereren, maar volgens mij nog steeds minder als de opvoerpomp.

Ik heb het geld niet voor een koel-unit, en de ventilatoren blijken dus weinig te helpen daarom dacht ik dat ik misschien de pomp zou kunnen vervangen voor een externe pomp. Maakt dat echt een paar graden merkbaar verschil, of zal de temperatuur nog steeds veel te hoog blijven? In mijn oude 200liter bak zonder sump was de temperatuur redelijk constant op 25 graden, en er werd daarin zelfs behoorlijk bijverwarmd 's nachts (zat ook een externe eheim 2213 op). Als de pomp echt 2 of 3 graden bijverwarmt en dat voorkomen zou worden met een externe pomp dan gaat die OR er direct uit. Helaas kan ik het niet testen want ik heb geen backup opvoerpomp, en ik durf m ook niet uit te zetten nu mijn drie rakkers er in wonen.


Heeft iemand enig idee of een externe opvoerpomp echt zoveel scheelt, en wat ik nog meer kan doen om de temperatuur terug te krijgen op het stabielere niveau dat ik had in de oude bak? Alvast dank voor het meedenken ;)
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Re: Temperatuur opvoerpomp (OR6500) intern vs extern

Berichtdoor Wes » 04 aug 2011 16:45

Niets is ooit gemakkelijk...
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Re: Temperatuur opvoerpomp (OR6500) intern vs extern

Berichtdoor Lode » 04 aug 2011 17:01

Ik ga mee met Wesley. Wat ik nog kan toevoegen is dat een (opvoer)pomp inderdaad aardig wat energie omzet naar warmte (o.a. de mechanische verliezen worden omgezet in warmte). Maar verlichting is vaak een grotere boosdoener. Het is relatief eenvoudig om de pomp droog op te stellen. Je verhoogt wel de kans op lekkage natuurlijk.

Ben benieuwd naar je antwoorden op Wesley :)
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Re: Temperatuur opvoerpomp (OR6500) intern vs extern

Berichtdoor PluX » 04 aug 2011 21:50

Nu je het zegt ik heb eigenlijk weinig aandacht besteed onlangs aan het verwarmingselement, hij staat op 24 graden, maar ik zal m nog eens iets lager zetten om te kijken wat er dan gebeurt. Het is een oud beestje dus die kan best wel eens dwarsliggen, mijn vorige jager verwarming zat er ook wel eens 3 of 4 graden naast. Ik heb de bak echter wel lang zonder de verwarming aangesloten gedraaid en toen deed de verwarming niets met de temp omdat die al hoger was dan de ingestelde 24 graden. De kap is zeker wel met zin dicht omdat ik een hekel heb aan strooilicht door de kamer, en ik om diezelfde reden voor enkel t5 ben gegaan omdat als er een HQi boven hangt de dichte kap enorm veel groter moet zijn, mijn kap is nu iets van 10centimeter zodat de T5 balken ongeveer 6 centimeter van het wateroppervlak hangen, maar het wordt inderdaad wel redelijk warm, het voergat met een diameter van 15 centimeter heb ik nu altijd open staan. Daarnaast zitten achterop de kap nog 4 gaten van 2cm waarvan door 1 alle kabels lopen.

De stromingspomp die er in hangt is een koralia van 5 watt dus ik denk dat dat op zich wel meevalt. De 4x54watt T5 die er boven hangt is inderdaad een groter probleem. Misschien moet ik toch een groter gat open trekken in de lichtkap om een ritsje pc fans in op de hangen. Helaas wordt dat moeilijk op de zijkant omdat ik daar maar iets van 4cm heb om een gat te maken. Ik heb al even een ronde 8cm fan voor een paar dagen in het voergat gezet en dat hielp niet echt.

De stromingspomp is daarnaast toch ook een flinke producent denk ik zo want alles wat overblijft van de 115watt na het pompen van water zal afgegeven worden aan het water, maar ik weet niet hoeveel dat zou schelen als ie niet in de bak zal staan. Als het maar 1 graad scheelt denk ik dat er met het opentrekken van de lichtkap misschien inderdaad meer winst te behalen valt. Als ik toch voor een externe pomp zou gaan zou ik mij niet zo heel veel zorgen maken, want ik heb jaren op de immer betrouwbare eheim 2213 gedraaid, en dat heeft bij mij nog nooit gelekt zolang je het goed aansluit (als we het waterballet bij onderhoud niet meetellen :).

Ik zal het bijhouden als ik iets verander als ik weer terug ben hoeveel het scheelt in temperatuur.
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