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Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

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Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Tim » 04 mei 2011 16:14

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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Jerrzz » 04 mei 2011 21:14

bij een zeebak is het wel afhankelijk van de afmeting van de bak. Ik denk dat bij een zeebak vooral de eerste aanschaf van alle spullen het duurste is. Kies je voor een bak met een sump of kies je voor een bestaande zoetwaterbak met alleen een afschuimer? Er wordt er geadviseerd om een osmose apparaat te kopen om je zeewater mee aan te maken, die dingen zijn ook niet goedkoop. Dan zijn de dieren die je koopt een stuk duurder dan zoetwatervissen. Winkelprijzen voor een zeevis zal beginnen bij 20/30 euro. Anemonen beginnen volgens mij ook vanaf die prijs en steenkoralen zijn een stuk duurder. Je hebt natuurlijk de optie om koralen en leders over te kopen van andere aquarianen, dan kun je denken aan stekjes vanaf 10 euro die al een mooi formaat hebben...

Als een zeebak eenmaal draait, heb je niet veel onkosten meer, alleen het zout, de testsets (die zijn redelijk prijzig) en het voer.
ik moet je eerlijk zeggen dat ik al mn koralen particulier overneem en nog geen enkele keer iets in de winkel gekocht heb.

echt een maandprijs kan ik je hier niet geven, aangezien ik niet elke maand geld aan mijn zeebak uitgeef.
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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Lode » 04 mei 2011 23:23

Als het een roofvissen aquarium betreft maakt het niet zo veel uit. Zodra je met koralen begint is zeewater veel duurder (dan is inderdaad ook osmose water aan te raden). In het geval van zoet/brak/zout kogelvissen maakt het niet zo veel uit als ze een vergelijkbaar formaat hebben.

Het is wel belangrijk appels met appels te vergelijken. Zoetwater dus met een goed filter (en goed filtermateriaal) en zoutwater met een goede afschuimer en de juiste hoeveelheid levend steen. Goed filtermateriaal (bijvoorbeeld syporax) scheelt niet eens zo veel met levend steen. Als je voor kleinere kogelvissen gaat in zoetwater is dit natuurlijk aanzienlijk goedkoper. Een zeewater aquarium met sump zou ik afzetten tegen een zoetwater aquarium met bioloog, etc.

Kosten per maand hangt af van de aquarium grootte en de visbezetting. Waar zit je aan te denken?
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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Tim » 05 mei 2011 11:34

Bedankt voor jullie reactie.

De kosten wat ik bedoel, zijn de stroom en waterkosten per maand.

Ik neem aan dat de verlichting van een steenkoralenaquarium veel meer wattage moet hebben dan een alleen vis bezetting.

Ik heb een offerte laten maken voor een aquarium van 600L met alle opties erop en eraan (ook een osmose- apparaat).
De prijs voor dit aquarium bedraagt 5000 euro.

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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Lode » 05 mei 2011 14:10

Waterkosten zijn lager bij een zeewater aquarium, omdat een goede afschuimer eiwitten en ander "elementen" in het begin van het nitrificerende proces verwijderd. Hierdoor is het eindproduct (nitraat) minder en hoef je dus minder te verversen. Ook is de bezetting en dus ook de belasting in een zeewater aquarium meestal lager. Ook hier geldt dat alles afhangt van de visbezetting.

Qua stroomverbruik is een zeewater aquarium meestal minder gunstig met name door de grotere pompen en sterkere verlichting die nodig zijn voor koralen. Je zou dit met de nieuwste led verlichting misschien wat terug kunnen brengen. Maar dat kan met zoet en brak ook, dus verschil blijft er.

Als je graag een zeewater aquarium wilt met een beperkt budget zou ik geen koralen nemen. Overigens vind ik de offerte aan de prijzige kant voor een 600 liter aquarium. Wat krijg je er allemaal voor?
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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Tim » 05 mei 2011 18:17

Hm ik kan de offerte even niet vinden.
Als ik m vind zal ik het posten.

Er zat in ieder geval alles bij.
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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor smiro » 05 mei 2011 21:08

Wanneer je alles nieuw koopt ben je wel een berggg geld kwijt. 5000 euro vind ik ook wat veel. Veel dingen kan je ook 2e hands vinden. Vooral zeewaterfora bieden de nodige apparatuur en koralen aan. Dat scheelt bakken met geld. Ik ben ook wel benieuwd naar die offerte.
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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Jerrzz » 05 mei 2011 21:37

ik sluit me bij Lode en Smiro aan bij wat ze je adviseren. Maar ook ik ben nieuwsgierig naar je offerte, vooral wat je dan allemaal erbij krijgt voor die prijs, want 5000 euro is echt veel geld voor zo'n bak.
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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Aisisjake » 21 jun 2011 11:05

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Re: Kostenvergelijking zoet, brak, zout(vis, leder, steen)

Berichtdoor Tim » 16 jul 2011 17:48

Ik denk dat ik me houdt bij de lederkoralen en later overstap op steenkoralen, maar dat ligt eraan wat ik kan betalen natuurlijk.

De grootte van de bak zal denkelijk 600l of 300l zijn. Daar ben ik nog niet over uit.

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