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Interne bioloog

Interne of externe filters, biologen, verwarming, pompen, etc.

Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Juliette » 29 maart 2011 10:13

Sinds gister ben ik de blijde bezitster van een jonge fahaka.

Deze is binnen nu en een 3/4 jaar uit zijn huidige behuizing gegroeid en gaat dan een grotere bak krijgen. Ik heb niet zo'n zin in 3 keer wisselen dus een upgrade gaat meteen van 80L naar minimaal 450L netto.

Ik wil goed beslagen ten eis komen en ben me al helemaal aan het inlezen in biologen en zelfbouw achterwandjes.

Heeft hier iemand ervaring met een interne bioloog? Dus links of rechts meegebouwd in de bak. Ik zie een externe onder het aquarium niet zo zitten in verband met overstromingsgevaar, gaten in de bak, veel leidingen, hogere aanschafspijs en geluid. Een extern potfilter wordt een prijzige aangelegenheid voor dat formaat bak en toen viel op de site van Veldhuis mijn oog op een interne bioloog.

Dat lijkt me wel wat, geen risico op lekkage, overstromen, geen onderhoud van leidingen en waarschijnlijk ook lekker stil. De ruimte die het inneemt is vrij beperkt (+/- 20cm van de lengte) en weegt bij mij wel op tegen de risico's en het afstellen van een externe.
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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Lode » 29 maart 2011 22:15

Er is inderdaad niks mis met een intern bioloog. Het scheelt ook behoorlijk qua energie. De pomp hoeft namelijk nauwelijks opvoerhoogte te hebben en er is relatief weinig warmteverlies. Grootste nadeel is dat het altijd een concessie is, of een kleiner aqaurium of minder filtermateriaal. Daarnaast zal het aquarium meer bodemoppervlakte in je kamer innemen.

Wil je een nieuwe kopen?
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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Juliette » 30 maart 2011 06:23

Goed om te horen dat een interne bioloog ook fijn kan werken :) .

Ik ben me ervan bewust dat ik die ruimte linksom of rechtsom kwijt ben in de woonkamer of in het aquarium. Maar dat gaat om een 20cm dus dat heb ik er wel voor over :) . De bak wordt natuurlijk behoorlijk diep in verhouding tot standaard maten dus ik verwacht genoeg filtermateriaal kwijt te kunnen.

Het wordt een bak met afwijkende maten dus waarschijnlijk laat ik er eentje maken.
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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Lode » 30 maart 2011 07:42

De vier kleinere bakken op de kogelstand van Vivarium had een intern filter. Is je dat nog opgevallen?

Je kan hierbij ook goed werken met een luchthevel, dat is vaak nog energiezuiniger :)

Welke afmetingen zit je aan te denken?
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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Juliette » 30 maart 2011 08:35

Dat is me wel opgevallen maar verder niet naar gekeken, aangezien ik toen geen grote kogel had :p .

Afmetingen ben ik nog niet helemaal over uit. Het is ook een beetje passen of meten wat ik kan in onze woonkamer en wat nog enigzins betaalbaar blijft.

Heb van Chantal begrepen dat de hoogte niet zo mega belangrijk is en ben zelf tot de conclusie gekomen dat hoger ook meteen heel veel duurder wordt. Zit nu een beetje met 150 x 70 x 60 in mijn hoofd. Dat geeft minus interne bioloog en achterwandje een inhoud van 463L. Standaard ben ik ook nog even naar aan het zoeken maar nog niet veel gevonden in de juiste maten.
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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Juliette » 29 apr 2011 08:23

Ik blijf een beetje zweven tussen 2 potfilters (bestaande en 1 nieuwe) of toch een interne bioloog.

Een maatwerk 4 kante bak gaat toch te duur worden even tellende wat er nog allemaal bij moet. Thuis dus nog eens goed gemeten en een rechthoekige kan ik ook wel plaatsen als we de boekenkast naar de keuken verhuizen :p .

In een rechthoekige kan je natuurlijk heel mooi en eenvoudig een interne bouwen. Op internet kan ik alleen nergens informatie vinden over hoe hoog/laag de schotten moeten staan. Daarnaast zou ik toch graag een soort van bodemafzuiging willen (voorkeur t.o.v. een kam) maar hoe groot maak je zo'n rooster in relatie tot het pompvermogen en filterinhoud?

Iemand die mij hiermee kan helpen?
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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Lode » 29 apr 2011 11:30

Kan ik je wel mee helpen. Hangt af van de exacte maten van aquarium en interne bioloog en grootte pomp?
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Re: Interne bioloog

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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Juliette » 06 jul 2011 06:46

Nou het nieuwe aquarium is een feit :D . Mooi bakje van 100x100x90 gekocht.

Het wordt ook een hoekbak dus het filter wordt in de hoek gebouwd. Het wordt een 5 vaks filter met 4 vakken van 20x15x90 (bxdxh) en het vak precies in de hoe wordt 15x15x90. Qua pomp zit ik te denken aan de eheim compact van 5000 l/h.

Vroegah was ik heel erg handig met autocad en technisch tekenen maar dat lukt me niet meer. Dus ik heb iets met de hand getekend en net ingescand. Het is een pdf file, kan ik dat hier ergens plaatsen?

Ik ben nog heel erg zoekende in de hoogte en afstand tot de bodem van de 4 tussenschotten en de groote van de doorvoer. Naast een kam wil ik in de eerste kamer ook een doorvoer hebben voor een afzuiging van de bodem. De doorvoer van de pomp naar de bak gaat gesplitst worden voor voldoende stroming aan de oppervlak en de bodem in verband met hoogte van de bak. Maar welke diameter(s) gebruik je voor een doorvoer?
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Re: Interne bioloog

Berichtdoor Lode » 06 jul 2011 23:05

Ik zou het pompvak iets groter maken, om verdampen op te vangen. Doorvoer zou ik lekker ruim nemen, 50 mm. Als je ze kleiner neemt is het verstandig voor dubbel te gaan. Dan kan je ze eventueel ook heel stil afstellen :)

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