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Van brak naar zoutwater?

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Van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor Essie » 17 sep 2008 21:53

Haai!

Omdat ik bezig ben met een zwaar-brak-water-bakje voor m'n toekomstige fluvje, gaat het toch een beetje knagen hoe het nou allemaal werkt met zoutwater en of dat voor mij misschien ook haalbaar is (op termijn).

Eigenlijk kan ik erg weinig info vinden over hoe je het beste een zoutwater bak kunt opstarten, wat je allemaal nodig hebt, filtratie, verlichting, wat de mogelijkheden zijn qua inrichting (bij zoet heb je verschillende biotopen, is dat met zout ook zo?), wat er bij elkaar kan, of juist niet, hoe dat nou zit met dood koraalsteen en levend steen, enz.

Hoe langer ik er over nadenk, hoe meer vragen er eigenlijk komen. Wie kan me een beetje op weg helpen?

Planning is dat de 60x30x30cm vervangen gaat worden door een Juwel rekord 110; 81x36x46cm.
Als filter heb ik nu een superfish aquaflow binnenfilter (tot 150 liter, 500 liter/uur), deze wil ik gaan combineren met een standaard intern filter (daar kan dan ook mooi de verwarming in en de zuurstofpomp?) wat al in een Juwel zit, met een sterkere pomp. Kan dat?

Als verlichting wil ik graag gewoon 2 tl's houden; een blauwige en een witblauwe. De laatste heb ik nu ook, en die vind ik erg mooi van kleur.

Inrichting kom ik tot grof koraalgrind, kunstof hol en dood koraalsteen; wat ik nu ook heb dus. Dat wil ik sowieso uitbreiden. Maar kan ik dit ook gaan combineren met levend steen? En hoe kan ik dit het beste doen?
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Re: van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor cooldown77 » 17 sep 2008 22:02

...heb je maar even de startershandleiding gestuurd voor een zoutbak ;)
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Re: van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor Essie » 17 sep 2008 22:11

Gelukkig is die maar 40 pagina's lang, hehe! Dank je!! :D

Naturlijk zijn alle reacties, ideeën en suggesties welkom!

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Re: Van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor stefan.T » 18 sep 2008 14:42

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Re: Van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor Lode » 18 sep 2008 20:14

Filtratie:
Berlin systeem met lege overloop en lege sump met een eiwitafschuimer (chemisch en mechanisch). Levend steen voor biologische filtering. Eventueel gafzakken voor extra mechanische filtering

Verlichting:
Hoge Kelvin waarde
Bij koralen, hoe meer hoe beter. Alleen vissen, net als zoet qua intensiteit.

Inrichting:
Koraal, steen, zand, wieren, etc.
Koralen gaat te ver om zo even uit te leggen (wil je koralen?)

Grof koraalgrind, kunstof hol en dood koraalsteen combineren met levend steen?
Ja kan, de opstart met levend steen duurt echter vrij lang.
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Re: Van brak naar zoutwater?

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Re: Van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor Essie » 18 sep 2008 21:56

Bedankt voor alle info en met mee denken!

Als ik het zo allemaal lees gaat het een heel duur grapje worden, en voor mij erg technisch en ingewikkeld.. Ik snap maar half hoe t water nou in de sump terecht komt, en hoe je daar ook nou ook nog een eiwitafschuimer bij gaat zetten, enz.
Liefst zou ik het hele filter gebeuren gewoon via 2 ruime binnenfilters (juwel"bak" met fosfaatabsorberende korrels en bioballen en een gewoon internfilter met watten en kool) laten lopen, of een goed buitenfilter en een binnenfilter. Leek mij dat als ik iets meer zou verversen en de watten elke week of 2 weken zou vervangen dat ook wel zou gaan.. :(( Zou dit zonder koralen wel kunnen?

Mn opzet is dat t fluvje t naar zn zin heeft, een eigen hol heeft en leuk allemaal stenen met doorkijkjes en verstopplekjes. Voor mezelf leek t me leuk om er ook wat levendsteen en een enkel koraaltje bij te doen.. het is zeker niet de opzet een zoutwaterbak te starten met een berg koralen en daar een fluvje bij te doen!
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Re: Van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor Lode » 18 sep 2008 22:02

Zodra je meer als alleen vissen gaat nemen, zit je vast aan de techniek (en vergeet ook de watervoorbereiders en dergelijke niet bij koralen).

Je zou ook voor een totaaloplossing kunnen gaan, zoals de Percula's van Aqua Medic. Deze worden redelijk goedkoop 2e hands aangeboden op het internet.

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Re: Van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor Essie » 18 sep 2008 22:41

Ok.. zal toch eens een beetje gaan rond zoeken. Neem aan dat er misschien ook op MP staan ofzo? Of andere verkoopsites?
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Re: Van brak naar zoutwater?

Berichtdoor stefan.T » 19 sep 2008 06:16

Je hoeft niet persé een sump je kan het ook gewoon met een hang-on afschuiimer doen dat werkt ook perfect hoor. Dat heb ik nu ook bij mijn aquarium. Je moet waarschijnlijk alleen een gat in de deksel maken.

Verlichting hoeft niet persé 1 watt per liter te zijn dat moet alleen bij steenkoralen.

Met de zeewater hobby kan je het heel makkelijk maken maar ook heel moeilijk.
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