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Kogelvis forum • Toon onderwerp - Osmose water voor brakwater..
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Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 nov 2014 18:12
door deijsmakerjeroen
Je schrijft 20 gram zout per 10 liter. ???

Dat is 2 gram per liter dit komt neer op ongeveer 1.0005 dit is volgens mij gewoon een zoetwater aquarium.

Ik denk dat je bedoeld.

20 gram per liter dan kom je ongeveer op 1.0135

Wat dat schommelen betreft ben ik het met je eens.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 nov 2014 19:13
door Grunsven
Inderdaad een typo. Moet zijn 70 gram per tien liter.
Zouter dan dat is ook niet nodig.
Soms is het wel een stuk lager.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 nov 2014 20:25
door deijsmakerjeroen
:2thumbs

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 nov 2014 00:12
door Ruben
Kom ik nog steeds terug op deze vraag: osmose water voor brakwater..
Bruine aanslag heb ik niet meer, hallejua!
En ja, af en toe zit ik ook op 1000.2
Grote regentijd, kleine regen tijd / grote droge tijd, kleine droge tijd.
Maar grunsven? ( weet u voor naam niet?) wat vind je van de zoutgehaltes in de database van tetraodon biocellatus?
En die bodem is net een eitje alleen dan met andere schalen.

G.P.S. Komen ook nog steeds uit zoetwater, heb ik eergisteren weer gehoort.
Leuk toch brakwater.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 nov 2014 11:36
door Grunsven
F8 leeft in het wild in zoet water (volgens vrijwel alle info die ik kan vinden al zal hij wel degelijk soms in het brakke deel zitten). Maar dit is water met veel mineralen en dus met een hoge osmotische waarde.
Welke mineralen er opgelost zijn maakt voor de osmotische waarde niet uit (in grote lijn). Dus om dit na te maken is zout het handigst. Eigenlijk klopt het dus niet als je dit een brakwater vis noemt. Aan de andere kant is wat zout in je aquarium dus wel een goed idee.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 nov 2014 22:02
door Ruben
Lode en Nanda, hoe staan jullie hierin?
Poj, daar heb je wel iets aangehaalt (net even een half uur lopen kookelen, had ik 3 jaar niet gedaan op f8) je hebt wel een mooi punt aangehaalt. :left thumb, denk dat ik mijn fugu's maar even los laat in mijn swamp. :nee
Herinner me nu dat Hugo, zijn f8 ook op iets van 1.000,02 had.
Maar overkill vat ik nogsteeds niet.

Gr

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 nov 2014 08:25
door Grunsven
Overkill is toch een vrij gebruikelijke term? Het betekent dat je een oplossing hebt die nogal groot/duur is voor je probleem.
Als je wat last hebt van bruine alg vindt ik het kopen van een RO apparaat niet de meest voor de hand liggende oplossing. Het werkt wel maar het is nogal een uitgave. Verminderen van de nutrientenbelasting lijkt me eenvoudiger.

Takifugu soorten zijn wel echt soorten uit zee die soms het zoete water in gaan, heel iets anders natuurlijk. Ook T. fluviatilis is ondanks zijn naam eigenlijk altijd in brak water te vinden en komt in de Mekong niet verder stroomopwaards voor.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 nov 2014 11:01
door Lode
Klopt de F8 is veel in zoetwater te vinden, maar ook in brak water. Een vissoort die zowel in brak als zoet water aangetroffen wordt valt per definitie onder de categorie brakwater vissen (en dus niet zoetwater).

Een ander verhaal is doet de betreffende soort het in een aquarium ook goed op zoetwater. Voor de F8 geldt dat hij het in een aquarium goed doet bij hoger en stabiel pH. Licht brak wordt erg gewaardeerd en vermindert de parasitaire druk etc. In het aquarium komen ze ook beter op kleur en zijn vaak levendiger en gezonder in brak water.

Wat betreft de andere discussie. Een zeer licht brak aquarium is niet heel veel anders dan zoet water. Ga je naar wat brakker krijg je al snel te maken met randverschijnselen zoals met name Ruben ook noemt. Des te brakker, des te lastiger, des te meer nut heeft het osmose of andere oplossingen te gebruiken om deze problemen te tackelen :)

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 nov 2014 01:24
door Ruben
A, overkill in de portomonee, tja mijn opa zei altijd 30 gehakt balletjes in mijn kom tomatensoep is ook overkill en mijn vader zei en dooie mier kapot stampen is ook overkill.
Ik zeg mijn hele aquarium is overkill...., maar vind het zo leuk.
Zit ik daar een paar weken van alles te googlen over het gebruik van osmose in zoet/brak en zout water, en dat ik het allemaal verkeerd doe, maj.
Maar ik zie baardalg in je aqua, deze heb ik niet meer in mijn bak.
ervaringen delen.

Gr

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 09 nov 2014 00:07
door Ruben
@ wilfred, hoe werkt dat spul nu, 3 weekjes later?
Is er een reactor voor nodig?
Gr ruben.