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Kogelvis forum • Toon onderwerp - Osmose water voor brakwater..
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Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 okt 2014 13:58
door Nanda
Haha.
Hoe duur is zo'n osmose apparaat?

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 okt 2014 14:08
door Ruben
Vanaf 50 euro tot een paar duizend.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 okt 2014 06:47
door wilfredgt555
Even een update over het gebruik van Rowa Phos.

Ik gebruik het nu even om van die alg af te komen, ik heb de Rowa Phos in de bijgeleverde sok gedaan en in het filter geplaatst, ik heb alleen niet het idee dat het werkt.
Er komt nog gewoon bruin en groen alg in de bak.
Ik lees op internet dat Rowa Phos het beste werkt in een reactor, iemand hier een tip over toevallig?

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 okt 2014 07:17
door Lode
Wordt het water met druk door met medium geperst?

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 okt 2014 23:42
door Ruben
Dit is wat ik leuk vind, het product wat je gebruik gebruiken ze in een zeeaquarium, waarin men koralen etcetc ( heb hier geen kennis van) willen laten groeien. De hoofdzaak is het fosfaat, dit wil men daar niet hebben, in een zoutwater aqua gebruik je al osmose? De echte wel!
Om nou je hele juwel filter om te bouwen om dit product te willen gebruiken, volg ik dan ook niet echt. Als overkill iets is, is dit het dan ook wel. Zet die lampen maar eens een week uit!
Visjes vinden dat niet erg.

Ik snap er geen hol van..

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 30 okt 2014 12:14
door wilfredgt555
Niet nodig om het filter om te bouwen, gewoon een losse reactor met pompje in de kast hangen zou voldoende moeten zijn.
Blijkt dat rowa phos het beste werkt als het los in een reactor zit in plaats van in een sok, maar helaas niemand die garantie geeft dat het werkt.

Nu het een paar weken in het filter zit, zie ik wel dat het minder is geworden, het zit niet meer op de planten, wel nog op de achterwand.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 30 okt 2014 22:16
door Ruben
Ik denk misschien anders, en wil niets aanbevelen. Wat ik lees op internet is wisselend. Positief en negatief, een beetje wij van wc advieseren wc eend. Maar goed, dan even over prijs en naar mijn idee simpel werken. Reactor kost? 50€ pompje 20€ slangetje, koppelings dingetjes energie verbruik, neem ik dan even niet mee. Dat zou dan goedkoper zijn als een beetje osmose apparaat.
Wat ik mezelf dan afvraag is: waarom wil ik nog meer techniek in mijn aqua hangen ( net zo als dat eb en vloed idee van me) is weer extra onderhoud, en staat lelijk in mijn aqua.

Wat osmose en rowa phos precies doet in brak weet ik niet?
Misschien tekorten aan elementen (mineralen etc etc) en welke reacties krijgen we daarop, voor een goed welzijn voor onze vissen?
Brakwater, begin er maar eens aan.

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 31 okt 2014 14:02
door Grunsven

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 nov 2014 00:27
door Ruben
Vind ik een beetje te simpel grunsven.
Wat vraagjes.
Welk zoutgehalte zou ik dan moeten meten en of moeten toevoegen?
Heb je een brakwater aquarium? Zo ja hoe ga jij om met die bruine aanslag?
Welke schommeling bedoel je? heb je schommeling in ph ook al eens bekeken?
Welke bodem adviseer je dan?
Laat je planten goed groeien in brakwater?
Welke verlichting is goed in zo'n aquarium?

En natuurlijk ben ik benieuwd naar foto's van u aquarium.
Veel vragen he,

Groet ruben

Re: Osmose water voor brakwater..

BerichtGeplaatst: 01 nov 2014 17:49
door Grunsven
Het is een 75 liter bak met een F8 en een zootje endlers.
Bij mij is het zoutgehalte ongeveer 20 gram per 10 liter (lees emmer). Maar het wisselt, soms wat meer, soms een keer verversen met gewoon kraanwater (het zoutgehalte schommelt dus net als in echte brakwatergebieden). Meten van het zoutgehalte doe ik eigenlijk nooit. F8 kan prima overweg met fluctuaties en zit natuurlijk aan de licht brakke kant.
Als bodem heb ik gewoon grof zand, niks ingewikkelds. Voedingsbodems en dat soort dingen is vragen om problemen, De planten die ik heb kunnen prima hun nutrienten uit het water halen. In het zand zit wel wat oestergrid om de pH te bufferen.

Bruine alg zit er wel een beetje in maar niet problematisch, groen nog wat meer maar ook niet erg. De neiging van veel mensen om alle alg weg te willen hebben is ook onnatuurlijk. Algen horen er gewoon bij, al moeten ze niet gaan domineren.
Javavaren en Heteranthera dubia doen het prima al groeit de eerste traag en met kleiner blad dan in zoet water.
Verlichting is een 15 watt daylight buis. (ongewild ook dwergkroos trouwens)
Ik zal binnenkort eens fotos maken en hier posten.

Maar zoals je leest is het toch echt vrijwel een zoetwaterbak maar dan met een beetje zout. Voor echte zeevissen is het allemaal heel kritisch wat de watersamenstelling is want de zee is groot en de kwaliteit dus heel stabiel. In brakwatersystemen is het soms ineens zouter (springvloed) en soms ineens veel zoeter (moesson). De vissen uit dat soort gebieden kunnen dat dus ook makkelijk aan.