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India biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 jul 2015 11:38
door sebastiaansw
Hallo Allemaal,

Ik heb een nieuwe bak(juwel rekord 800) die wil ik in gaan richten voor een aantal C. travancoricus(dwergkogeltjes)

Hiervoor wil ik graag een biotoop maken gericht op de kogelvisjes die uit india komen.
Het volgende heb ik uitgezocht en hiermee wil ik mijn aquarium op bouwen.
Ik ben benieuwd naar jullie mening en adviezen.

bodem
latriet (franse rode klei)
zand (filterzand)

planten:
Cyperus helferi
Limnophila aquatica
Rotala rotundifolia
Hygrophila pinnatifada
Vaantjesplant - Hygrophila Difformis
Microsorium pteropus (javavaren)
Vesicularia dubyana(javamos)
Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides

drijfplant
Trapa natans

hout
Bamboe of mangrovehoute

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 jul 2015 14:54
door Lode
Vet plan! Ik zou mangrove hout in plaats van bamboo pakken.

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 jul 2015 16:20
door Juliette
Bamboe kan wel maar dan moet je levende en geen dode pakken. Dode stokken gaan zeer snel rotten en versnotteren.

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 jul 2015 21:26
door Nanda
Heel vet! Ben reuze benieuwd hoe je aquarium.er uit gaat zien.

Persoonlijk zou ik ook mangrove pakken.

Wanneer gaat t avontuur beginnen? Ga dit zeker volgen!

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 jul 2015 22:13
door Lode
Denk dat Sebastiaan graag wat over de planten had willen horen, maar ik heb er helaas geen verstand van :hands

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2015 06:54
door sebastiaansw
ik neig inderdaad ook meer naar de mangrove, maar denk dat ik zelf even wil kijken hoe de bamboe aanslaat.

Mijn vriendin wil eerst de kast waar het aquarium op komt nog wit verven, dan ga ik het aquarium rustig opbouwen.
Zal wel even duren voordat ik alles goed vind staan.

Ja deze planten opgezocht op internet, daar stond op dat deze uit india kwamen.
Flinke uitzoektocht en zelf daar een selectie uit gemaakt.

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2015 09:43
door Aquafreak
Wij hebben net een Trigon 190 ingericht voor de C. travancoricus en wil wel mijn ervaringen delen over de planten.

Afbeelding

Mijn ervaring is dat je beter niet kan bezuiningen op de eerste aanschaf van planten. Als je de bak direct goed beplant en goed bemest kunnen deze gelijk aanslaan en helpen bij de opstart van de bak. Waardoor je eerder een stabiele bacteriehuishouding hebben.
De Trigon heeft aan de voorkant een zandbodem en de achterste helft is grind. De planten in het zand doen het tot nu toe beter als de planten in het grind, terwijl daar juist de snelle groeiers staan.
De planten worden wekelijks bemest met Profito en dat bevalt heel goed, de planten zijn allemaal aangeslagen en groeien goed.
Ook hebben we de 2 lampen direct vernieuwd, dat scheelt vaak ook.

Ik heb even gekeken naar jouw lijstje met biotoop-planten en heb zelf de volgende ervaringen.

Cyperus helferi = is een wat lastigere plant omdat deze voedselrijke bodem nodig heeft. Een voedingsbodem kan wat problemen opleveren met garnalen die gevoelig zijn voor de meststoffen in een voedingsbodem, daarom hebben wij geen voedingsbodem maar bemesten we wekelijks vloeibare mest.
Limnophila aquatica = Snel groeiende stengelplant, ideaal voor de opstart.
Rotala rotundifolia = rood snelgroeiende plant maar om mooi rood te blijven heeft hij wel aardig wat licht nodig.
Hygrophila pinnatifada = langzame groeier die wat bevattelijk is voor algen.
Vaantjesplant - Hygrophila Difformis = gemakkelijke plant, maar bij ons in het grind doet hij het toch niet geweldig.
Microsorium pteropus (javavaren) = langzame groeier die het beste op een stuk hout geplaatst kan worden en niet in de grond.
Vesicularia dubyana(javamos) = altijd goed! De dwergjes en garnalen zullen er dankbaar gebruik van maken ;-)
Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides = de waternavel. Wij hebben een alternatief met kleinere blaadjes gekozen = Hydrocotyle Tripartita

drijfplant
Trapa natans = waternoot. Ik vind het een prachtige plant, maar was geen succes in de Trigon omdat het gedeelte boven water vrij veel ruimte inneemt en door de verlichting verbrande de blaadjes. Het is eigenlijk ook een vijverplant. Wellicht als je meer ruimte in je lichtkap hebt lukt het wel.

Een dankbaar soort is de Cryptocoryne. Er komen dieverse soorten voor in India.
Hier staan ze in het zand en doen het eigenlijk wat te goed ;-)
Hierbij een linkje waar je misschien wat aan hebt: http://crypts.home.xs4all.nl/Cryptocory ... India.html

Ook bij de Anubias zijn er enkel soorten uit India, wellicht kun je daar ook nog even op zoeken met google.

Succes met de inrichting en opstart, ik ga jouw topic zeker volgen!

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2015 12:22
door sebastiaansw
Hallo aquafreak,

Hele mooie bak heb je!
en bedankt voor het delen van je ervaring! hier heb ik veel aan.
Als bodem ga ik alleen filterzand gebruiken, hopen dat alle planten dan goed aanslaan.
Dit zonder voedingsbodem maar wel plantenbolletjes erbij, dan hebben de garnalen er misschien ook wat minder last van.

Die drijfplant word ook even kijken hoe hij aanslaat, klein portie proberen en als het niet lukt dan helaas.
welke drijfplanten heb jij nu in je bak dan?

Je tips ga ik nog even uitzoeken en wellicht mijn plantenbestand nog wat wijzigen! :left thumb

Re: Inda biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2015 12:44
door Aquafreak
Dank je voor het compliment Sebastiaan.

De drijfplanten zijn: Limnobium leavigatum en Salvinia.
Als je in de buurt woont kom je maar wat ophalen want het groeit de bak bijna uit.
Ze helpen wel heel goed bij het opstarten van je bak.

Een kleine portie waternoot gaat niet lukken, want de plant is als hij nog klein is toch al een schijf van 10-15 doorsnee ;-)

Re: India biotoop?

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 jul 2015 20:50
door Lode
Ik ben onder de indruk Marianne :left thumb

Met stekjes kan je eventueel ook de bak inrichten inderdaad. Vergt alleen iets meer geduld. Bij zeeaquaria is het gebruikelijk stekken te delen/ruilen. Gebeurd eigenlijk veel te weinig in de zoetwater aquarium hobby.