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Kogelvis forum • Toon onderwerp - Tetraodon turgidus

Tetraodon turgidus

Plaats hier uw foto's of filmpjes van kogelvissen, aquaria, etc.

Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Juliette » 06 okt 2015 17:18

Met 26 graden is zuurstof inderdaad prima voor een gezonde vis. Maar als hij duidelijk moeite heeft met de ademhaling en veelal op de bodem ligt kan je het hem wel wat makkelijker maken door de temperatuur iets te laten zakken.

Fijn dat je met easylife verbetering ziet. Melafix is een compleet ander product. Dat is op basis van een etherische olie genaamd kajepoet en is qua werking misschien wel een beetje vergelijkbaar met tee-trea olie bij mensen. Het ontsmet en helpt wondgenezing.
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Grunsven » 06 okt 2015 18:10

Easy life bindt allerlei verbindingen, net als filteren over kool. Dat zouden stressstoffen van de vis zelf zijn. Chloor en dat soort dingen spelen geen rol.
Melafix komt op mij altijd over als kwakzalverij. Melaleuca heeft (in het lab) effecten op bepaalde bacterien maar niet in dit soort hoeveelheden. Doordat het een olie is komen de werkzamen stoffen ook vrijwel niet bij je vis.
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Lode » 06 okt 2015 19:57

Het gaat hier om een vis met bijtwonden...

Vraag me niet waarom melafix zo goed werkt bij onze schubvrije kogelvissen. Ik heb ook m'n twijfels gehad. Maar de hoeveelheid goed werk dat het al verricht heeft bij verwondingen bij kogelvissen is bizar. Los van mijn eigen ervaringen, Google er maar 'ns op :)

Easylife kan overigens nooit kwaad inderdaad.

Hoe gaat t met 'm Jeroen?
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor deijsmakerjeroen » 06 okt 2015 21:48

Zwemt nu voor de tweede dag komstand tegen de achterwand op een plek gisteren nog bijna rechtop vandaag meer horizontaal tot 45 graden.

Het lijkt of hij gehumeurd is af en toe een zwiep met zijn staart/achterlijf.

Eet nog niet reageert zelfs niet op voer.

In het algemeen ziet hij er beter uit ... maar begint nu toch wel erg mager te worden.
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Grunsven » 07 okt 2015 09:50

Als je googled lees je veel verhalen van zieke vissen die beter werden na behandeling met melafix. Dit betekent niet dat ze beter werden door melafix. Het kan ook gewoon het immuunsysteem van de vis zijn of andere dingen (waterkwaliteit).
De manier om hier achter te komen is een goed opgezet experiment. Dan zijn er geen aanwijsbare effecten van melafix http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 6315000269
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Lode » 07 okt 2015 10:22

Hoeveel ervaring heb je zelf met verwondingen aan kogelvissen Roy? Ik heb het hier niet over een wetenschappelijk bewezen fenomeen, al zou het emperisch bewijs voor de werkzaamheid van Melafix voor de ervaren kogelvis hobbyist vast geleverd zijn. Het is een baat het niet, dan schaadt het niet middel en primair moet je uiteraard zorgen dat het water goed is, zoals ik eerder aangeef. Een goed ingedraaide bak met een vergelijkbare pH waarde was in 1e instantie belangrijker geweest.

Het juiste advies is belangrijk. Nog belangrijker is echter een advies welke in ieder geval de situatie niet erger maakt, wat in dit topic het geval was. De hulp is echter goed en oprecht bedoeld. Focus hierop is bij een mogelijk stervende kogelvis misschien net wat belangrijker... Wat is jou advies voor Jeroen Roy??
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Grunsven » 07 okt 2015 14:46

Zorgen voor rust en een goede waterkwaliteit is het belangrijkst. Levend voedsel in het aquarium dat de vis niet stoort en blijft leven (slakken of garnalen) kunnen geen kwaad. Zoiets als Melafix zal niet veel kwaad kunnen maar ik geloof er niet in.

Er wordt in de aquariumhandel van alles op de markt gebracht zonder fatsoenlijke onderbouwing. Je bedenkt iets, stopt het in een flesje, bedenkt waar het voor zou moeten werken en vraagt geld? Veel vissen die ziek of gewone zijn herstellen, allemaal lovende verhalen voor je product.
Deugdelijk empirisch bewijs wordt zelden geleverd maar er wordt heel veel geld mee verdiend.
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Bubbles » 08 okt 2015 14:45

Hoe gaat het nu met je turgidus? Lijkt hij al wat op te knappen?
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor deijsmakerjeroen » 08 okt 2015 19:57

We krijgen een beetje hoor.

Stiekem keek ik net even.... is hij even z'n vinnen aan het strekken voorzichtig zwemt hij door de bak.
Alle vinnen doen mee de rug vin is nog wel zichtbaar beschadigd en zodra die niet nodig is gebruikt hij hem ook niet.
Voer kijkt hij niet naar. Gisteren 100 vuurgarnalen toevoegen. Vandaag niets te zien.
We weet snoept hij daar wat van.
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Re: Tetraodon turgidus

Berichtdoor Sebas2000 » 16 okt 2015 06:55

Hoe gaat het nu met hem?
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