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Mbu kogelvis

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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor Grunsven » 18 nov 2014 09:11

NO2 is erg slecht voor kogelvissen. Ik zou dus zeker dagelijks meten en voor de zekerheid veel water verversen.
Je aquarium is nog niet goed ingedraaid. NO2 wordt door bacterien omgezet in het minder schadelijke NO3 maar blijkbaar zijn er in je aquarium nog niet genoeg bacterien (deze groeien vrij traag voor een bacterie)
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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor deijsmakerjeroen » 18 nov 2014 09:27

Dagelijks testen en ik denk ook dagelijks verversen en ja 50%

Wat was de No2?
En hoelang draait het aquarium precies?
Test je met een teststripje of drupeltest?
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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor sammybas » 18 nov 2014 11:25

De no2 was roze volgens mij 3 het was niet de slechtste maar ook zeker niet de beste.
Het aquarium staat ongeveer 3 weken misschien langer.
Ik heb wel bacteriën die ik kan toevoegen nadat ik het water heb ververst. Ik heb dit vannacht niet gedaan.

Wat adviseer je mij?
Ik zal het vanavond weer testen en indien nodig verversen.
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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor sammybas » 18 nov 2014 11:26

En ik heb het getest met druppels.
Ik heb zn hele koffer met testen.
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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor Grunsven » 18 nov 2014 12:49

3 weken is vrij kort maar je bent waarschijnlijk ook ineens meer gaan voeren nu er een mbu in zit. Dit betekent meer belasting, meer NO2 en dus ook meer bacterien nodig. Die komen er vanzelf maar het duurt even. Tot die tijd kun je de NO2 laag houden door water te verversen. Je zult merken dat de NO2 steeds minder snel op gaat lopen doordat de bacterien toenemen.

Die poedertjes met bacterien geloof ik niet zo in. Tijd werkt veel beter.

Maar in ieder geval goed dat je er snel achter bent gekomen wat er mis was.
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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor sammybas » 18 nov 2014 14:05

Hoi grunsven,

Bedankt voor het advies.
Ik ga het goed in de gaten houden.

Ik had helemaal geen vissen er in zitten.
Ik wilde graag deze mbu daar was ik helemaal weg van dus ik had een nieuw aquarium gekocht.

Ik heb veel gelezen en opgezocht alles getest en dit was goed.
Ik heb alleen de no2 test totaal over het hoofd gezien.
Dit is me ook niet verteld in de winkel toen ik vertelde wat ik allemaal getest had.
Alles ging een paar dagen goed dus ik heb hem 2 mossels gegeven en toen zag ik dat hij snel ademde erna.

ik had 1 dag eerder er 1 kogelvisje in gedaan.
Op advies heb ik deze er dezelfde avond nog uitgehaald en in ren ander aquarium gedaan maar de vis ademde nog steeds snel.

Door de tip van jeroen heb ik de co2 getest en dit was dus niet goed.
Ik heb direct savonds laat tot in de nacht 50 procent van het water vervangen.
Ik zag gelijk dat nadat het aquarium weer gevuld was de vis beter ademde.

Als ik zo thuis ben test ik het weer en zal dan verversen.

Ik heb volgens mij druppels voor de bacterien die je in de sponsen kan doen.

Raad je deze ook af?

ik ben inderdaad blij dat ik er snel bij was heel stom van mij dat ik net zoiets belangrijks niet goed heb getest.
ik hoop dat ik het nitriet snel in orde kan krijgen.

Hoe krijg je bacteriën in het water zonder bv deze druppels?
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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor Grunsven » 18 nov 2014 14:15

Je bedoelt NO2 in plaats van CO2 neem ik aan ?

Die bacterieen leven van NO2 en als dat er niet is kunnen ze dus ook niet groeien. Twee mosselen is natuurlijk aardig wat eiwit (en dus N)
Die druppels kunnen geen kwaad maar ik geloof ook niet dat het veel helpt. Die bacterien zitten overal in lage hoeveelheden in de grond en op substraten en komen ook gewoon uit de lucht in je aquarium.
Met die druppeltjes duurt het twee weken voor je aquarium op orde is en zonder duurt het 14 dagen.

Er wordt in winkels veel spul verkocht dat niks of vrijwel niks doet. Maar het levert geld op en dat is natuurlijk het doel.

Maar als je niet teveel voert en netjes meet en water ververst is er niks aan de hand.
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Berichtdoor deijsmakerjeroen » 18 nov 2014 16:17

No2 van 3 is volgens mij dodelijk als je er niets aan doet.
No2 moet 0 zijn
No2 van 0,3 is al schadelijk voor vissen.

Het mooiste had je het aquarium eerst een maand of 6 met kleine vissen laten draaien .

De vloeibare bacteriën kan je toevoegen weet niet of het echt werkt.

Bij de water wissel goed de bodem afzuigen voerresten en ontlasting
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Re: mbu kogelvis

Berichtdoor sammybas » 18 nov 2014 17:29

No2 is wederom weer 0,3..
ik zal wederom zo weer 50% water verversen.
ik heb niet het idee dat het minder is geworden door het versen van gister maar ik zal het blijven doen tot de waardes goed zijn.
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Berichtdoor deijsmakerjeroen » 18 nov 2014 18:34

In kraan water 0 No2

Jouw bak bevat 0,3 als je 50% ververst zou je op 0,15 uitkomen dus een verbetering.
Meet je een paar uur later dan zal het vuil er voor zorgen dat het weer 0,3 is .
Gewoon door gaan met verversen over en aantal dagen zullen de bacteriën winnen
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