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Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

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Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor anne » 02 jan 2013 15:05

Hallo allemaal,

Volgens mij heeft Bop flagelaten, ik vond m de laatste tijd ook al erg rond, ook als hij niet gegeten had. Nu zag ik 'm net ontlasten en dat was dus alleen maar wittig slijm, dus flagelaten dacht ik.
Juist gedacht?

Behandel ik dit met Tremazol? en waar moet ik op letten als ik het koop?

Bop gaat waarschijnlijk vrijdag over naar een nieuw aquarium, is het dan misschien verstandig om 'm dan te behandelen als hij in de emmer zit, zodat niet al het medicijn in de nieuwe bak komt?

Ik ben een beetje angstig voor medicijnen, mijn vorige kogeltje begaf t toen ik een anti-slakken middel gebruikt had :(

Ik hoor graag van jullie!
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor Juliette » 02 jan 2013 15:40

Flagelaten kan maar hoeft niet. Ik zou gewoon beginnen met tremazol. Bij voorkeur de gehele behandeling inclusief herhaling af te ronden voordat hij het nieuwe aquarium gaat. Dan voorkom je herbesmetting met eieren.
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor deijsmakerjeroen » 02 jan 2013 15:44

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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor Nanda » 02 jan 2013 16:21

Wat balen Anne, heeft hij nog meer symptomen naast rond zijn en witte slijmachtige ontlasting?

Waarom beginnen met Tremazol? Bop is niet mager zoals ik het lees.

Mochten het flagelaten zijn dan is tremazol niet het juiste medicament om te gebruiken.
Flagelaten (gatenziekte) zijn pas in een later stadium echt met het oog te onderscheiden door de gaten die dan ontstaan.

Heb je deze link al bekeken? index.php?i=content&mode=ziektes&category=Octomitus+%28gatenziekte%29

Zaak is eerst om te kijken hoe het probleem is ontstaan, wat is je water kwaliteit? Heeft bop onlangs levend voer gehad of is er iets veranderd in het aquarium?
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor anne » 02 jan 2013 16:42

Bop heeft al eerder slijmerige ontlasting gehad en dat is toen vanzelf weer over gegaan. Ik durfde hem toen niet te behandelen. Dit is echt al minstens een jaar geleden.

Heb inderdaad echt een baaldag vandaag :box filter (tweedehands) onrepareerbaar kapot *goedkoop duurkoop* nu maar een nieuwe gekocht.
En nu Bop met rare poep :oo

Voor de rest doet hij alles zoals altijd. Het viel me dus alleen wel de afgelopen week op dat hij nogal dik is... Dus ik had 'm erg weinig gevoerd om te zien of hij zo bleef. En hij bleef dus zo dik. Normaal gesproken wordt ie dan iets minder bol :|

Ik heb net het water getest en dat is allemaal ok, behalve KH is aan de hoge kant....

De symptomen van gatenziekten komen eigenlijk niet echt overeen. Het enige is dus de witte ontlasting... Maar goed om nou te gaan wachten op gaten :tong
Is er misschien iets waardoor ik kan testen wat hij heeft?

Qua verandering heb ik alleen een nieuw filter, en heeft vannacht 't filter niet gedraaid, vanwege het lek. Maar het filter heeft wel vaker een keer uitgestaan en toen was er verder niks aan de hand....

Zal ik afwachten en Bop gewoon verhuizen? Of beter behandelen met tremazol (helpie,helpie :cry ik vind dat eng) ?
en stel dat ik ga behandelen, welk merk medicijn is het best?

Heel erg bedankt alvast voor de reacties! :left thumb

P.s. (Slakkenmiddel gebruikte ik jaren geleden bij mijn eerste kogeltje, in zoetwater, zeer fout voorgelicht :cry Ben me er gelukkig later in gaan verdiepen en heb Bop nu al 5 jaar.)
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor Nanda » 02 jan 2013 17:13

Hoe hoog waren je nitraat en nitriet?

Waarom dacht je aan flagelaten?

Na hoeveel dagen voeren wordt hij niet dun? Praat je dan over 1, 2,3 of meer dagen?
Misschien kan je een foto van hem maken dan kunnen we zien hoe dik hij is.

(Wat een boel vragen hé? Sorry. ;) )
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor anne » 02 jan 2013 17:52

Ik heb van die teststrips, maar die zijn geloof ik niet echt accuraat...Volgens de kleurtjes zat alles wel aan de lage kant qua nitraat en nitriet...

Ik dacht aan flagelaten, omdat de aquarium meneer de vorige keer zei dat dat t was, maar goed die man wil alleen maar verkopen. Ga tegenwoordig ook naar een andere.

Ik heb 'm vorig weekend (3 dagen) niet gevoerd en toen was ie nog steeds goed gevuld :-) , maar normaal gesproken is ie dan wel al iets dunner.

Ik had van de week nog foto's geplaats :
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Hij heeft wel een beetje een donkere buik, maar heb net gekeken en hij is weer prachtig fel groen met een witte buik :|

Als er nog meer vragen zijn hoor ik het graag, ik wil alleen maar het beste voor me Boppie :2thumbs
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor Juliette » 02 jan 2013 17:59

Wat had je hem de dag ervoor gevoerd? Als ik inktvis voer dan is de ontlasting ook wat slijmering.
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor anne » 02 jan 2013 18:04

Ik voer 'm meestal om de dag, en hij had eergisteren mossel, en nu kreeg ie een beetje rode muggenlarven en zodra ie begon te eten, spoot er wit slijm uit m :(
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Re: Flagelaten, hoe te behandelen?

Berichtdoor anne » 03 jan 2013 11:56

Ik lees net dat haakwormen ook witte slijmerige ontlasting veroorzaakt en een licht opgezette buik. Ook las ik "Schuren met de anus over het zand of tegen ornamenten kan ook en teken zijn, net als een opgezette anus." Dat schuren heb ik 'm nooit zien doen en zijn anus is ook niet echt opgezet. Wel lijkt de opening groter dan normaal, maar dit durf ik niet met zekerheid te zeggen.
Ik ga zo direct even langs de aqua-winkel, maar zou het zeer op prijs stellen als men hier ook even de meningen over verdeelt. Jullie hebben toch de meeste ervaring met kogeltjes...

P.s Op de foto's heeft hij niet van te voren gegeten. Misschien issie wel gewoon te dik, maar met de rare ontlasting zit het me toch niet helemaal lekker
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