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60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor nilo1804 » 21 okt 2012 09:58

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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor Nanda » 21 okt 2012 10:50

Hoi Niels, welkom op het forum leuk dat je je hebt aangemeld.

Het aquarium wat je wilt gaan opstarten is helaas te klein voor een f8, heb je een mogelijkheid om een groter aquarium te plaatsen?

In een 60 liter aquarium kan je maximaal 3 dwergkogelvissen houden (Tetraodon travancoricus); 1 man met 2 vrouwen bijvoorbeeld. :)
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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor Nanda » 21 okt 2012 12:02

Het ideale is twee inderdaad (goedemorgen Nanda :koffie )..

Er worden wel vaak met succes 3 dwergjes in 60 liter gehouden mits het aquarium goed ingericht is, zelf zou ik er dan voor kiezen er geen bijvissen meer bij in te doen. :)
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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor nilo1804 » 21 okt 2012 15:37

bedankt voor jullie reacties!

maar de dwergkogelvis is toch geen brakwater?

ik heb een 80cm zoetwater en een lege 60cm, die wil ik dus gaan gebruiken.

ik wil ook wel dwergjes houden, dan voer ik wel appelslakken. moet ik dan nog de tanden knippen?

het aquarium wil ik een zee-uitstraling geven;

veel gatenstenen (van die witte, ik dacht kalk maar dat kan ik alleen in zoetwater gebruiken).

ook met de bewoners houd ik rekening met de uistraling ik wou dan als bestand (als dat kan);

1X koppeltje CPO kreeft
3x dwergkogelvis

is dat mogelijk?

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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor Juliette » 21 okt 2012 15:42

Dwergjes zijn inderdaad zoetwater. Ik heb ze ook gehouden met gatenstenen en dat gaat prima in zoet water. Tandjes knippen is bij dwergen nooit nodig. Appelslakken moeten echt heel erg klein zijn, want dwergen zuigen de slakken uit hun huisje en appels hebben een opperculum waarmee ze zich afsluiten.

Dwergen kan je niet met CPO kreeften houden, omdat ze op de bodem slapen. Ze zijn dan een makkelijke prooi voor de scharen van een CPO.
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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor nilo1804 » 21 okt 2012 15:57

een speciaalbak voor 3 kogelstjes dan?

kan ik ze wel anatome helena voeren? of nemen ze die niet gezien de kleur van de slak?

ik wou de bak inrichten met VEEL en ALLEEN gatensteen.

kan er evt. later een groepje japonica garnalen bij of 1-3 R. wui?

hoe zie ik geslachtsverschil? buikkleur toch? geel man, wit vrouw?
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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor Juliette » 21 okt 2012 16:40

Voor 3 kogeltjes is een 60cm bakje met alleen steen te klein. Dan komen ze elkaar continu tegen en krijg je geheid ruzie. Zou dan voor 2 vrouwen gaan. Voor de Wui is een 60cm bakje te klein, ze worden vrij groot en zijn ook behoorlijk territoriaal. Dwergen zitten veel op de bodem en als de Wui eieren hebben geeft dit teveel stress voor beide vissen. Oto's of Khuli's zijn dan geschiktere bijvissen

Japonica's kan je toevoegen maar die kweken niet op zoet en zullen vrij snel volledig uitgemoord worden. Dan kan je beter voor een flinke groep vuurgarnalen gaan. Die kweken snel en hou je met een beetje mazzel een stabiele groep over.

Geslachtverschil zie ik zelf het duidelijkst door de fluo rimpeltjes achter de ogen die de mannen hebben. Buikkleur wil niet altijd wat zeggen of de man moet al ouder zijn en een bruine streep onder de buik hebben.
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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor nilo1804 » 21 okt 2012 16:50

oké, maar met planten en hout komen ze elkaar toch ook tegen? als je een paar grotjes bouwt met gatensteen en dan een grotere partij in het midden van de bak?

ik kan ook eerst 2 vrouwen nemen en als dat goed gaat later misschien nog een vrouwtje (of mannetje) toevoegen.

ik houd het eerst bij een speciaal bak, later kan ik altijd nog bijvissen nemen...

ik kan toch de appelslakken voeren als ze net uit het ei zijn?
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Re: 60x30x30 vragen

Berichtdoor Juliette » 21 okt 2012 17:37

Tussen dichte beplanting zien ze elkaar weinig. De zichtlijnen zijn dan op hun best gebroken. Met veel steen zijn er meer open plekken en zien ze elkaar sneller. Dwergjes zijn geen vissen die de hele dag in een grotje hangen maar ook veel rond zwemmen. Maar je moet natuurlijk ook wat mazzel hebben met de karakters.

Je kan appels inderdaad net vanuit het ei voeren.
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