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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor Nanda » 21 sep 2013 10:11

http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/187978/0

Op deze site staan meestal de meest nieuwe onderzoeken. Vaak met links. Zoals je ziet is bij de turgidus nog niet erg veel onderzocht. Zal als ik tijd heb eens even naar andere bronnen kijken. Wel leuk topic Jinne! Erg interesant om weer eens een gelvjs onder de loep te nemen met zijn allen!
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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor jinne » 21 sep 2013 10:21

Ja ik kan ook niet echt veel vinden. Alleen een interessant artikel over toxiciteit.
Occurrence of paralytic shellfish toxins in Cambodian Mekong pufferfish Tetraodon turgidus: selective toxin accumulation in the skin.

Ngy L, Tada K, Yu CF, Takatani T, Arakawa O.
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Graduate School of Science and Technology, Nagasaki University, Nagasaki 852-8521, Japan.

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The toxicity of two species of wild Cambodian freshwater pufferfish of the genus Tetraodon, T. turgidus and Tetraodon sp., was investigated. Tetraodon sp. was non-toxic. The toxicity of T. turgidus was localized mainly in the skin and ovary. Paralytic shellfish toxins (PSTs), comprising saxitoxin (STX) and decarbamoylsaxitoxin (dcSTX), account for approximately 85% of the total toxicity. Artificially reared specimens of the same species were non-toxic. When PST (dcSTX, 50 MU/individual) was administered intramuscularly into cultured specimens, toxins were transferred via the blood from the muscle into other body tissues, especially the skin. The majority (92.8%) of the toxin remaining in the body accumulated in the skin within 48h. When the same dosage of tetrodotoxin (TTX) was similarly administered, all specimens died within 3-4h, suggesting that this species is not resistant to TTX. Toxin analysis in the dead specimens revealed that more than half of the administered TTX remained in the muscle and a small amount was transferred into the skin. The presence of both toxic and non-toxic wild specimens in the same species indicates that PSTs of T. turgidus are derived from an exogenous origin, and are selectively transferred via the blood into the skin, where the toxins accumulate.

Ik ga nog eens wat meer proberen te vinden via school. :2thumbs
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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor Nanda » 21 sep 2013 10:23

Mooie informatie. Jammer dat ze alleen over het gif echte onderzoeken doen. Dat maakt een kogelvis natuurlijk wel speciaal maar natuurlijk gedrag zou ook vet zijn om daar meer over te weten.

Je school is inderdaad wel een goeie optie. Ben reuze benieuwd. :)
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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor jinne » 21 sep 2013 10:27

Ja ik kom zo inderdaad alleen op onderzoeken terecht over de toxiciteit en niet over het gedrag. Ja zo gauw ik meer vind zal ik het laten weten! :)
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Re: 2 turgidussen

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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor jinne » 21 sep 2013 16:01

Ja dat wat je zegt met glas zou misschien wel de beste optie zijn. Ja ik vind het ook harstikke sneu. Ik stond er zelfs op dat ik een kogeltje zou redden en toen kwam smaug op marktplaats!! Ik kijk regelmatig op marktplaats en vind dat dan altijd zo sneu he :(
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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor _San87_ » 21 sep 2013 16:46

Ik heb ook besloten dat ik na Cupcake alleen nog maar afstandskogeltjes neem. Ik kan het niet meer tegenover mezelf verantwoorden om ze uit de lokale aquariumwinkel te halen.
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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor jinne » 21 sep 2013 20:30

Dat is een goede keus! Ik vind het ook moeilijk want in de winkel zijn ze altijd zo schattig haha. Niet dat ik ooit een turgidus in de winkel heb gezien
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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor Nanda » 21 sep 2013 20:39

Het vervelende met conclusies trekken is dat het je geen zekerheid geeft. Het zou ook kunnen dat ze in paren of in harems leven. We weten het gewoonweg niet helaas.

We blijven zoeken. En anders zelf naar verweggiestan met zn allen om onderzoek te doen? :p
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Re: 2 turgidussen

Berichtdoor jinne » 21 sep 2013 20:53

Hahahha leuk idee :p voor een forumuitje.
Maar nanda inderdaad met zelf conclusies trekken weet je het nog niet zeker...
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