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Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Ruben » 06 sep 2013 22:06

Ik heb 2 jbl pompen/filters, prettige dingen vind ik.

onderste: 1ste pijpjes, 2 xbolletjes, 1 grove spons en 1 fijne voor de uitloop,
de zeg maar zij sponzen met kartel.
heb ik al 2 keer vervangen in 1 jaar.

de hoeken in de filterbuizen spoel ik, per kwartaal uit.


Een (te) hoge KH, ga uit van 11 is dat erg voor vissen?

Dit zijn scheikundige processen waar ik geen weet van heb. sorry!

Wat is je no2 op dit moment?

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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Materializer » 07 sep 2013 07:21

NO2:1
NO3:10

Deze waarden zijn gemeten met een Tetra strippen setje. Dus de gemeten waarde zal in de buurt liggen. Of een te hoge KH erg is voor vissen weet ik niet. Wat ik wel meen te snappen: hoe hoger de carbonaat hardheid KH, hoe hoger vaak de PH. Dat klopt bij mij ook wel, de PH is richting 7,8. Ik zit te denken om een betere testset te kopen om hier meer grip op te krijgen. Ik kan nu wel meer co2 toe gaan voegen als tegenwicht voor de hoge KH en resulterende alkaliniteit maar laat ik misschien eerst maar preciezer meten.

En heb je de sponzen of álle vulling al 2x vervangen in een jaar? En waarom?

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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Timo » 07 sep 2013 08:27

"Het onmogelijke mogelijk maken."
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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor jinne » 07 sep 2013 11:03

Supermooie bak:D
Ook leuk dat je aan kogeltjes wilt beginnen! Ik hoop dat je snel wat sapjes kan vinden.
Lijkt een wat grotere solitaire kogelvis je niks?
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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Materializer » 07 sep 2013 11:07

Hoi Timo,

Welnu, in eerste instantie was ik niet van plan er bijvissen bij te plaatsen. Maarrr.. Het zal je bekend in de oren klinken; algen! Het viel me vandaag ineens op dat er vooral op de HC, maar ook op de Vallisnerius algen zitten, de bruin groene én de donkergroene draad algen.. Het zal er aan liggen dat de bak nog niet stabiel is ingedraaid.. Daar er toch nog geen vissen in de bak zitten nu eerst maar een behandeling met Algol gedaan om hopelijk de groei van algen in de kiem te smoren, of anders te remmen tot er algeneters in de bak kunnen.

Grappig die analogie met jouw bak indertijd Timo Ik las dat jij indertijd van die "koning der algeneter-vissen" had geplaatst. Welke waren dat ook alweer?

En net Utaka aan de lijn gehad, die reserveren 5 SAPjes voor me. Soms zit het tegen (alg) soms zit het mee!

Grt, Kor

Hoi Jinne,

Neej, ik vind de interactie in de bak tussen verschillende vissen erg leuk. Ik ben me er van bewust dat kogelvissen prima solitair kunnen, maar sommige varieteiten ook als harem/groepje prima kunnen. Daar heb ik de SAPjes op uitgekozen. Mede dus ook om hun grootte ( of beter, kleine omvang) met een groter aantal nog steeds geen enorme belasting op de bak..

Maar jah, misschien toch maar een paar rommel opruimers extra er in dus want als ik ergens van gruwel is het alg.. Anyways als ik toch bij Utaka ben..

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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor jinne » 07 sep 2013 11:22

Oke dat kan ik inderdaad goed begrijpen!
Ja wat schoonmakers is een goed idee. Kogelvissen maken er nogal een bende van. Vooral met meerdere en als je er zeker van wilt zijn dat ze allemaal genoeg voer krijgen. Maar dat gaat denk ik wel goedkomen!
Wel wat fotos posten hea als je ze hebt :p
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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Materializer » 07 sep 2013 12:10

Welke bij/vissen raden jullie aan als opruimers van de troep die SAPjes achterlaten? ... Naast een 2/3 algeneters??

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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Lode » 07 sep 2013 13:18

5 lijkt me wat enthousiast, hoeveel liter is het aquarium? Langer aquarium zou ook optimaler zijn voor de C asellus.
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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Ruben » 07 sep 2013 13:56

5 lijkt mij ook veel eerder 3 a 4, ik zou er wel voor zorgen dat je no2 op nul is voordat je je vissen plaatst. ( maar dat wist je waarschijnlijk al)

Ik wissel alleen de sponzen. de pijpjes en balletjes spoel ik soms af met aquarium water.

Over bijvissen kan ik je niet helpen,
Deze kan wel index.php?i=content&mode=bijvissen&category=Otocinclus+affinis

Snof hier heeft trouwens ook sapjes.

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Re: Nieuwe bak voor SAP's ?

Berichtdoor Materializer » 07 sep 2013 14:17

Lode, de bak is 100 lang 50 hoog 40 breed = +_ 180-190 L. misschien zijn 5 wat enthousiast, maar wat je links en rechts leest laat 5 toe op een dergelijke bak. Maar ik zal je advies ter harte nemen en eerst eens drie proberen.
@resys, dank je voor de puinruimer suggestie, alhoewel ik zie dat ze van aardig wat stroming houden. Hoeveel moet ik me daar dan bij voorstellen denk ik.. Ik zal me eens inlezen.
Ik ben ook aan het dubben over die C Siamensis, schijnt ook zn werk te doen.

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